1 Nov 2025
The discussion covers various Niro Moto engines, detailing their positive and negative aspects and comparing models like Boxer, BX, Giti 200, and J 200. It critically analyzes market trends, pricing strategies, and the significant impact of buyer literacy and ethical seller practices on motorcycle sales, highlighting declining quality in some popular brands.

Niro Moto engines are reviewed, detailing their positive and negative aspects.
Boxer designs are a product in the motorcycle market, characterized by a high price, light engine, and limited popularity in some regions despite the Yamaha label, contrasting with commodity engines.
The G 200, available in all colors, is very special and popular, but its price around 200-241 makes sales difficult for sellers who cannot afford to hold inventory for extended periods.
The Giti 200 is much superior to the J 200 in terms of comfort and smooth ride, with the J 200 having gears; the Esf 180 is also considered better than the J 200.
Buyer illiteracy is a disaster, as many sellers misleadingly claim two engines are the same, ignoring critical differences like brake, wind flap escape, weight, and steering wheel that significantly affect a motorcycle's balance and ride.
The Ivy Husky motorcycle is characterized by the company's experience and maturity and a unique nameplate, but it features a rough, ugly engine with very small wheels for its weight and stretch, leading to poor low-speed handling and low shock.
The TVirax engine, an older model from 1992-1993, is still in the market at prices around 238-240 tomans, but its market is declining due to the availability of newer, updated engines.
Newer Chinese plan scooters, such as Iroquois and Click plans, are priced around 180-200 million and are often offered to young people with no prior engine experience, which presents significant challenges for beginners due to potential breakdowns and maintenance.
The MX King, priced at 372.8 million tomans, experienced a significant price increase, impacting its market, parts availability, and its specific audience.
The Super Cup market in Iran has significantly declined because consumers increasingly prefer convenience and automatic motorcycles over manual gear-shifting, reflecting a societal trend towards laziness.
The Honda Blade market is entirely dead, with owners struggling to sell these motorcycles even at a loss.
The Vario Sisheh 160 is priced at 350 million tomans; while some models are good for quick buying and selling at lower mileages (20-30 thousand), others with higher mileage are very difficult to sell.
Honda's quality has significantly decreased, partly attributed to Japan's policies against the Iranian economy and past negative experiences; the assembly quality of models like the 'King of Scooters' is very poor and does not justify its 550 million price.
The PCX is generally considered better than the N-Max, though the N-Max is acceptable but not updated, and its high price makes it less competitive compared to more reasonably priced Chinese products that offer favorable payment terms.
Superficial marketing often focuses on branding over actual quality or suitability, with some sellers exploiting buyer illiteracy by promoting products not justified by their high prices or performance.
Illiteracy in the motorcycle buyer is a disaster, leading to irreparable market issues exacerbated by sellers who deny significant differences between models.
| Model | Insight |
|---|---|
| Boxer/BX Designs | Overpriced luxury perception masks commodity status and limited appeal due to high price and light engine. |
| G 200 / G 2000 | High popularity and unique appeal are undermined by unsustainable pricing, leading to slow sales for dealers. |
| Giti 200 vs. J 200 | Not all models from the same brand or segment offer equal riding experience; Giti 200 is superior in comfort and ride. |
| Ivy Husky | Company maturity does not guarantee engineering excellence, evident in a rough engine, small wheels, and poor handling for its weight. |
| TVirax Engine | Outdated models persist in the market due to legacy, but their competitive viability and market share are rapidly declining against newer options. |
| Chinese Plan Scooters (e.g., Iroquois, Click) | Affordable entry-level options cater to inexperienced youth, but their inherent challenges (breakdowns, maintenance) create frustration for beginners. |
| MX King | Rapid price inflation (e.g., 100 tomans increase) disconnects products from their perceived value and impacts market reach and parts availability. |
| Super Cup Motorcycles | Evolving consumer preference for convenience and automatic transmission (reflecting a societal trend towards 'laziness') fundamentally shifts market demand away from manual gear motorcycles. |
| Honda Blade | Specific product categories or models can become completely obsolete, resulting in a dead market where inventory is unsellable even at a loss. |
| Vario Sisheh 160 | Liquidity in the used market varies significantly with mileage; models are good for quick turnover at low mileage but very difficult to sell with higher mileage. |
| Honda 'King of Scooters' | Once-reputable brands can suffer significant quality degradation and assembly issues, often linked to broader economic/political factors, severely eroding consumer trust and product justification. |
| N-Max vs. PCX | High-priced, un-updated branded products struggle against more competitively priced alternatives, especially those from Chinese manufacturers offering flexible payment terms. |
