16 Oct 2025
Conservatives actively promote marriage and having children, urging men to enter traditional marital arrangements. However, a truly traditional marriage is argued to be impossible in the current legal and social landscape of this country.

Conservatives consistently advocate for marriage and procreation, encouraging men to 'get married and have kids' without addressing underlying systemic issues.
A truly traditional marriage, defined by a hierarchy of God, man, woman, and child, with the woman submitting to the man, is deemed impossible in the current legal framework.
In this country, women possess significant power within marriage, typically gaining custody of children, filing for divorce the majority of the time, and receiving alimony, often leaving men in financial ruin.
Men lack the final say in marriage and cannot fully control a woman's actions, choices, or external influences like social media, which can lead to the dissolution of the marriage.
Conservatives often advocate for reforms in other societal issues, such as the school system regarding trans issues, but they do not push for marriage or family court reform, despite expressing concern over birth rates and family culture.
Women subtly hold leverage through social media access to other men, the ability to damage a man's reputation (e.g., with abuse allegations), and financial independence, which allows them to leave marriages if they choose.
A form of 'subtle gaslighting' occurs within conservatism, where women advocate for traditional marriage outcomes without advocating for the necessary reforms or giving up any power, and often do not meet traditional prerequisites like virginity.
Promoting marriage without reform is likened to sending men to a 'slaughterhouse,' as men are nine times more likely to commit suicide after divorce, highlighting severe and often unacknowledged risks.
Conservatives tend to shame men out of using their only potential leverage, such as sex or cheating, deeming it immoral, while failing to apply the same moral scrutiny to women who withhold sex from their husbands.
Conservatives are criticized for shaming men into entering marital contracts that are highly unfavorable to them, unlike liberals who are at least upfront about their expectations and desires.
Until there is marriage reform, you cannot have a traditional marriage in this country, as it does not exist.
| Key Insight | Summary | Implication |
|---|---|---|
| Impossibility of Traditional Marriage | A truly traditional marriage, where a woman submits to her husband, is legally and socially unachievable in modern society. | Current laws grant women power over divorce, custody, alimony, and finances, making male authority and the traditional hierarchy untenable. |
| Conservative Hypocrisy on Reform | Conservatives champion 'Get Married and Have Kids' but actively avoid advocating for family court or marriage law reform. | This inconsistency means they promote an unattainable ideal, sending men into a system where they are highly vulnerable, increasing risks like post-divorce suicide. |
| Women's Modern Leverage | Women possess significant power through legal rights (custody, divorce filing, alimony), social media influence, reputational control, and financial independence. | This leverage fundamentally shifts marital dynamics, giving women the final say in the marriage's continuation and terms, contrary to traditional expectations. |
| Suppression of Male Agency | Conservatives shame men for potentially using sex as leverage (e.g., cheating) but do not apply the same moral condemnation to women who withhold intimacy. | This double standard disarms men of their only perceived leverage in an already unfavorable marital contract, leaving them with limited power. |
